fox: technical difficulties: please stand by. (technical difficulties)
fox ([personal profile] fox) wrote2006-01-31 04:03 pm
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the great flist tech support department

hi gang!  anyone have any idea why Outlook Express has started messing up the time stamps on one of my (five, three of which i've had e-mails in this afternoon) e-mail accounts?  the time stamps on the messages in the webmail for the relevant address are fine; but somewhere between the server and my inbox, an hour and three to five minutes is added.  the clock on my computer is correct, and as i say, this problem isn't happening with e-mail coming from other servers.  any suggestions?

[identity profile] kmg-365.livejournal.com 2006-01-31 08:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I must have missed Gini's "vermin" comment. I found the echo interface to be a bit clunky, so I wasn't much of a regular (I used the web, not a newsreader). Who was she calling vermin?

Shez's echo LJ community didn't have spoilers, really. It was primarily slash fic, which is why Dex initially refused to go there. That's died down a bit, which has left the community rather...dead. I post there every now and then, but since I'm not into the EU, there's not much Star Wars news to talk about.

[identity profile] darthfox.livejournal.com 2006-01-31 08:37 pm (UTC)(link)
i believe the 'vermin' were new people. but i could be wrong; like i say, i got there afterward, when people were talking about it, rather than responding to it. :-)

and: ah, dex. [sigh][headshake]

[identity profile] kmg-365.livejournal.com 2006-01-31 08:37 pm (UTC)(link)
and: ah, dex. [sigh][headshake]

Honestly, though, would you expect a different reaction from Dex? ;-)

[identity profile] darthfox.livejournal.com 2006-01-31 08:43 pm (UTC)(link)
hard to say. there's a difference between "primarily" and "exclusively", and assuming everything was properly labeled and cut-tagged, i guess i'd have thought that even dex could handle being part of a community where some of the traffic he didn't so much care for. i mean if he didn't have to read it; like, he wouldn't even be where it was? that does strike me as a bit much, if he wanted to be in the comm but wouldn't for that reason.

but of course all dex and i ever had in common was that we were both stubborn as all hell. :-)

[identity profile] kmg-365.livejournal.com 2006-01-31 09:10 pm (UTC)(link)
You got that right (that Dex is stubborn as hell). You should have been over at Echo when he and I were in a heated exchange about the Skywalker kids. Dex insisted that we would find that there was a third Skywalker, born before Luke and Leia, and that would be revealed in Episode III.

No matter what I - or anyone else - said, he wouldn't budge. There was only one explanation for "there is another Skywalker" and "the Emperor knew, as did I, that were Anakin to have any offspring, they would be a threat to him":

Anakin and Padme had a child before Luke and Leia who was trained in the Force, but bailed on Ben and Yoda.

He was quite insistent about it.

[identity profile] darthfox.livejournal.com 2006-01-31 09:17 pm (UTC)(link)
[thinks about this]

well -- bailed on Yoda, anyway. because if Ben knew about Phil Skywalker (or whatever his name was going to have been), it wouldn't solve anything. i mean, presumably one would insist on the existence of Phil in order to make sense of Ben's mistaken impression that Luke was their last hope. right? except, duh, he knew about Leia. ... i was trying to think of a way he could legitimately not know that Leia wasn't dead, but no, i got nothin.

so why was it that "there is another" and "the Emperor knew etc." didn't make sense?

[identity profile] kmg-365.livejournal.com 2006-01-31 09:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Because Dex absolutely, positively refused to believe that Leia was "the other", and refused to believe that Anakin's offspring would be strong enough in the Force to pose a threat. He had to have witnessed that they would pose a threat before he could make that assumption.

[identity profile] darthfox.livejournal.com 2006-01-31 09:33 pm (UTC)(link)
and he apparently really, genuinely believed that George Lucas thought that far ahead or would ever give a rat's ass about tying anything up that neatly.

i say again: [sigh][headshake]

[identity profile] kmg-365.livejournal.com 2006-01-31 09:50 pm (UTC)(link)
No, I think Dex thought that this was a plot hole.

[identity profile] darthfox.livejournal.com 2006-01-31 09:58 pm (UTC)(link)
good old dex. he can insist that it really was a plot hole and george was both in a position to notice and willing to fix it, and at the same time, refuse to be in a virtual room where people are having fun with a little observable homoerotic subtext -- and remain completely unaware that this could be even the tiniest bit ironic. :-)

[identity profile] kmg-365.livejournal.com 2006-01-31 09:51 pm (UTC)(link)
And talk about high-jacking a thread! :)

[identity profile] darthfox.livejournal.com 2006-01-31 09:56 pm (UTC)(link)
[snort] yeah. off to the promenade with you, buddy.

[identity profile] kmg-365.livejournal.com 2006-01-31 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Are you saying I need to add T*PPL to my posts now? ;)

[identity profile] darthfox.livejournal.com 2006-01-31 10:00 pm (UTC)(link)
not even if i remembered what that stood for. :-) the beauty of LJ.

[identity profile] kmg-365.livejournal.com 2006-01-31 10:04 pm (UTC)(link)
That Damn Promenade Protection Line. An in-joke where we would add a Star Wars related line to a Promenade-type posting to prevent the sysadms from moving it to the Promenade.

[identity profile] darthfox.livejournal.com 2006-01-31 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
but in that case this whole thing, since before you even mentioned dex and jodo is, like, a Promenade Protection Thread.