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kayser update (from someone four thousand miles away)
bummer -- it appears my friends Plainfield Dubberly did not, in fact, win the kayser. ah well. they still get nifty jewelry. in good news, though, our friends Potomac Hamilton won the second event St Andrews Medal. go them! [waves banner reading "Pototomac II" from 2004 women's challenge at Utica]
(ahem. also, The Most Annoying Man Alive didn't win the fourth event. but his team gets hardware as well.)
further update: hey, you can totally mouse over the names of the teams and get the names of the team members, and therefore i discover that Utica Delmonte is made up not just of the vaguely-obnoxious skip (at skip) and his long-suffering wife who viced for him in 2004 (at lead), but also the aforementioned incredibly-hostile second (at second) and his wife, who, we were told at the 2004 kayser, wouldn't even curl with him anymore, that's how bad he was (at vice). the snarky-but-competent vice from the 2003 kayser (who won the 2004 women's challenge; i forget her name), and the genuinely-funny-too-bad-they're-hanging-out-with-jerks couple who played front end at the 2004 kayser were not listed! perhaps they'd had enough. or, aged out.
also, it appears that three of the four teams from albany were skipped by women. go albany! (of course they each lost their first game. but so did plenty of teams skipped by men, and there were teams skipped by women that did win in the first round, so, you know, so what.) (mixed teams have to have two men and two women, and they have to alternate, is the thing, so customarily women throw lead and vice and men throw second and skip. this is so customary that at the training session for USCA officials, the past president of our club actually asked, in all seriousness and without meaning to sneer or offend anyone at all, if a woman could skip a mixed team. at least two of us young enough to be his granddaughters said "why on earth not?" and the matter rested, but suffice to say, women don't skip anything like half the teams at mixed events, even five-and-under mixed events like the kayser. at this kayser, if the roster is correct, six out of 36 teams had women at skip. so, i'm just saying.) (of course, me, i prefer to vice rather than skip, given a choice, so it's not that twelve of the remaining 30 teams can be assumed to be subjugating their women or anything. but, you know.)
(ahem. also, The Most Annoying Man Alive didn't win the fourth event. but his team gets hardware as well.)
further update: hey, you can totally mouse over the names of the teams and get the names of the team members, and therefore i discover that Utica Delmonte is made up not just of the vaguely-obnoxious skip (at skip) and his long-suffering wife who viced for him in 2004 (at lead), but also the aforementioned incredibly-hostile second (at second) and his wife, who, we were told at the 2004 kayser, wouldn't even curl with him anymore, that's how bad he was (at vice). the snarky-but-competent vice from the 2003 kayser (who won the 2004 women's challenge; i forget her name), and the genuinely-funny-too-bad-they're-hanging-out-with-jerks couple who played front end at the 2004 kayser were not listed! perhaps they'd had enough. or, aged out.
also, it appears that three of the four teams from albany were skipped by women. go albany! (of course they each lost their first game. but so did plenty of teams skipped by men, and there were teams skipped by women that did win in the first round, so, you know, so what.) (mixed teams have to have two men and two women, and they have to alternate, is the thing, so customarily women throw lead and vice and men throw second and skip. this is so customary that at the training session for USCA officials, the past president of our club actually asked, in all seriousness and without meaning to sneer or offend anyone at all, if a woman could skip a mixed team. at least two of us young enough to be his granddaughters said "why on earth not?" and the matter rested, but suffice to say, women don't skip anything like half the teams at mixed events, even five-and-under mixed events like the kayser. at this kayser, if the roster is correct, six out of 36 teams had women at skip. so, i'm just saying.) (of course, me, i prefer to vice rather than skip, given a choice, so it's not that twelve of the remaining 30 teams can be assumed to be subjugating their women or anything. but, you know.)
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This may be my last curling question for a while. Cross your fingers.
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originally, of course, women didn't play at all. so we're still probably at a point where it's good that there's a men's event and a women's event because otherwise there'd be precious few women competing at the high levels at all. (what it should be, of course, is neither separate nor mixed, but Open, where a team has four players and nobody gives a damn if they're men or women. but we're not there yet. [g] quick, name the only olympic event where men and women compete together!)
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name the only olympic event where men and women compete together!
Do you mean ice dancing/pairs figure skating? I can't think of anything where it's just random, but maybe I'm missing something.
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