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fox ([personal profile] fox) wrote2007-04-07 06:37 pm

a good weekend for me!

(Which is good, because the later part of my week kind of sucked.)

The second and third (of three) rounds of the All-American, an inter-club women's bonspiel, were today.  We had five-person teams, and my team was complete but another team just had three, so I got traded for the first game and stayed for the second as well.  Which was fine, because we won both of those games, so the team I was traded to was undefeated, so we won!  So I got a groovy pin.  Hurrah.

There was some talk about sweeping afterward, and I got thinking about sweeping philosophy.  MMcH said (and I think she's right) that when both sweepers prefer to sweep on the same side (and nobody feels especially flexible), the stronger sweeper should get the preference and the other sweeper should defer.  Fine.  But the question is, can you always tell which sweeper is stronger?  I mean, it's clear to me that (for instance) [livejournal.com profile] datlowen is a stronger sweeper than I am.  At the Kayser, one of the reasons I had [livejournal.com profile] cmshaw holding the broom for me when I got stuck skipping is that JA was a stronger sweeper.  (But she's a perfectly strong sweeper herself, and if he'd been a more experienced vice than she was, we'd have done things differently.)  But it's not always the case that men are stronger sweepers than women -- although it is generally the case that their upper body strength and mass are distributed more in their favor.  So if you have a man and a woman of substantially similar skill and experience, do we assume that he's the stronger sweeper in the absence of specific evidence to the contrary?  Suppose both sweepers are women?  This is when I guess we defer to who's playing which position -- the vice should probably let the front end have their way for the front-end shots, and let them sort it out between themselves for the back-end shots.  So on a mixed team, any time there are two people of the same gender sweeping at the same time, one of them is the vice and should automatically give way to the other.  (On a serious mixed team, one of the things determining who vices and who's in the front end should probably have to do with the strength of the sweepers, incidentally.)  A lot to think about.

Anyway, then I went grocery shopping, and picked up three or four flavors of coffee creamer, because yay for variety.

I also have an e-mail here from my choir about the Summer Chorus, in which we're doing Bernstein's Chichester Psalms with the NSO.  [falls down dead]  I've wanted to do that piece for more than ten years, ever since the time in high school that we were supposed to do it but wimped out on account of we didn't have the strength in the tenors and basses.  Oh, the happiness of me.

This evening I think I'm going to go to the movies, quick before Breach is gone.

[identity profile] king-chiron.livejournal.com 2007-04-07 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
My sweeping philosophy is not to slip and land on your face like I did! :)

[identity profile] darthfox.livejournal.com 2007-04-08 02:46 am (UTC)(link)
That's a good philosophy! :-) But it's an individual philosophy, whereas you can see I was talking about team philosophy. ;-)

On sweeping...

[identity profile] jgesteve.livejournal.com 2007-04-08 05:29 am (UTC)(link)
I agree with MMcH in theory, however one also has to factor in how much worse the person is on their not strong side side by side. For instance, let's say person A and B are sweeping together and both prefer the right side of the stone. Let's say person A is a 9 (on a scale of 10) on the Right, and person B is an 8 on the right.

If they're about the same on the left as they are on the right, then yes, person B moves to the left.

However, if Person B is say a 5 when on the left, and person A is say an 8, then I think Person A should swap to the left because having 16 total is better than having only 14 total.

Other factors that I think effect sweeping strength aside from gender is broom type (both material and shape). For instance, I think that Jon, my men's league teammate and lust object, would possibly be a better sweeper than me were it not for his using a club broom.

Re: On sweeping...

[identity profile] darthfox.livejournal.com 2007-04-08 02:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, there's also that. Me, for example: I'm stronger on the left, but I'm willing to go over to the right, and often I'm still stronger on the right than the person who doesn't want to move (even if I'm also stronger than that person on the left). Case in point, yesterday I was sweeping across from JF. It's just not worth making her move, you know? :-} But I think M's theory assumed very strong sweepers across the board, so that particular issue is less of a thing -- it began when she was talking about how she had to switch sides when she was playing lead for D and C, and that year the second was DM, who's a true left-hander.

Anyway. I do predict that I will be a (even) stronger sweeper when I get a new broom. [looks forward to happy future day]