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fox ([personal profile] fox) wrote2007-07-03 03:07 pm
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here's a west wing question for you, several years after the fact.

Recall that in the early 3rd-season episode "Ways and Means", the following dialogue takes place:
DONNA
I had a plan! Each box was numbered. There is a piece of paper with a number and a corresponding description of the contents of each box.

JOSH
Well, where is the piece of paper? [Donna glares at him.] It's... in one of these boxes.

DONNA
I had a plan.
This is, of course, just a smidgen of a longer conversation about in one of these boxes is this stuff, and in one of these boxes is the other stuff, and then Donna says "I can't [sleep] yet. Because in one of these boxes are FedEx receipts and mailroom records for any gifts or packages sent to senior staff, and in one of these boxes is a piece of paper which SAYS WHICH BOX IT'S IN!"

My question is this: did Sorkin really think that plan was all that clever that he needed to have Donna and Josh spend all that time describing it? I'm not saying Donna was wrong to be as wigged out as she was, but surely everyone who's ever worked in an office will join me in wondering why on earth he made her say "a piece of paper with a number and a corresponding description of the contents of each box" when he could have had her say "an index".

[identity profile] darthfox.livejournal.com 2007-07-03 07:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Of course that's what it is. But what I'm saying is, normally the WW humor results from surprise, incongruity, conflict, repetition, and opposite expectations w/r/t things people would actually do or say in given situations. In this scene, instead of finding it funny, I've always thought "Well, if she's operating at a level where preparing an index of documents in boxes in storage -- and come to think of it, surely an index was prepared when they were put in storage -- counts as a Clever Plan, as evidenced by her use of the word 'plan' and her non-use of the word 'index', then she must not be as blazingly competent as we'd been led to believe, and no wonder she misplaced the index in one of the boxes." You know?

[identity profile] jgesteve.livejournal.com 2007-07-03 07:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Ahh but see, here's the thing, if I'm recalling correctly these were subpoena'd documents so I'm assuming there wasn't an index of them already... there may have been an index of them for boxes they were originally in, but...

Perhaps the other issue is that they had trouble settling on a particular word... i.e. you suggest index would be appropriate, but I would probably have suggested immediately the word "manifest" others might think "docket" or "register" etc. So this way "paper with numbers" makes no mistake in what they are talking about.

Also, she may have been intentionally dumbing it down for the sake of Josh in a bit of Secretary to Boss-Who-Really-Doesn't-Care-How-It-Gets-Done-So-Long-As-It-Gets-Done translation.