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fox ([personal profile] fox) wrote2008-01-08 11:17 am
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just a quick note --

I'm feeling better and better about Barack Obama.

I was leaning a little Edwards-... well, Edwards-ward for a long time, simply because I didn't have enough hope that enough of our fellow citizens could bring themselves to vote for anyone but a white man to think of Clinton or Obama as the best nominee. (Tortured syntax, I know. Lots of embedding. I'll give you a minute. Everyone back with me?) If we could make one of these out of the three of them, it'd be a walkover -- instead of a heart/head/hands trio, we've sort of got a sincerity/experience/electability trio, and an amalgam of the three candidates would be the perfect storm, wouldn't it?

Alas, candidate-grafting technology is still unavailable to us, so we have to pick one. And I know it's still early days, so Obama could still end up not being the nominee; and I'd be fine with either of the other two as the nominee, truly, because even Bill Richardson could probably beat the (with apologies to my right-leaning friends) clowns and whatnot the Republicans are trying to decide among. But the more I pay attention over the past few days, the more I like Obama, and the more I find myself (despite how wonderful the phrase "Madam President" would be) hoping he wins, and, because the guy is a tremendous orator with that kind of effect on people, daring to imagine it, not with "if", but with "when".

[identity profile] sanj.livejournal.com 2008-01-08 05:45 pm (UTC)(link)
It's a difference between whether they describe the piety as what drives them or as what they think ought to drive you, which I tend to see as shaking out along party lines.

As you say -- I'd rather live in a democracy run by theists than in a theocracy, though both of them get outvoted by the actual separation of church and state that's -- oh, wait, that's right! -- in the constitution.

I'm pleased by the thought of a president who (a) can speak in complete sentences, and (b) thinks I'm a human being who can be allowed some basic civil rights. Which means I'm fine with any of the democrats, really. Keep that bar nice and low.

[identity profile] darthfox.livejournal.com 2008-01-08 05:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't see having someone in charge who happens to be a theist as necessarily inconsistent with constitutional separation of church and state. (And neither do you, I know -- it's just that for now those are the buttons they have to press in order to get in the door. Some day, and maybe within our lifetimes, the candidates' religious convictions will be like how many children they have -- publicly available irrelevant information.)