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fox ([personal profile] fox) wrote2008-05-10 06:24 pm
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doctor who 4x06 "the doctor's daughter"

I just have this one thing to say, at the moment --

GO ON, BABY GIRL, I KNEW YOU COULD REGENERATE!  (Only how come the same face, eh?)

I did want her to be a proper daughter, though, and not a stem-cell hatchling from a vat.  I believe it was about this time last week that I said Ooh, who wants to bet she's Susan's mother?  (Not unlike a friend of [livejournal.com profile] abka's, evidently.  Only I'd have lost that bet.)  (I also suggested that Jack Harkness was her mother, because hey, the man has been pregnant.  IT'S CANON.  Alas.)

Note, though, the ham-fisted way in which Rusty and his minions alerted us to the fact that the Doctor had more children than just Susan's parent, in the past.  They, they, they, them.  I have to believe they wouldn't have whapped us over the head quite so hard with that point if it wasn't going to turn out to be relevant later on.

Okay, I guess that was actually a handful of things.

[identity profile] apotropaios.livejournal.com 2008-05-10 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I have been well assured that that wasn't regeneration; it was the terraforming stuff that brought her back. No, it doesn't make any sense at all. ARGH.

[identity profile] darthfox.livejournal.com 2008-05-10 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I saw where your commenters said that, but it makes so little sense that I'm simply going to refuse to believe it until canon makes it clear that I must. :-) Ah, the benefits of rigid conservatism (vis-à-vis canon, that is). It'll be easier to come up with some plausible reason why she regenerates with the same face than it would be to explain why exhaling terraform gases (rather than inhaling them) would reanimate a corpse. I mean to say. (Maybe if you've only got one parent, I mean to say, you only get six regenerations -- so, twelve lives, but only six faces. Right there, I win.)

[identity profile] apotropaios.livejournal.com 2008-05-10 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Hate to be the one to tell you this, but RTD has said that, as far as he's concerned, the 13 regenerations thing is going to be ignored; in New Who, it's just indefinite. I imagine when they get to 14, they'll have some throwaway line about how it used to be 13 before Time War, etc.

[identity profile] darthfox.livejournal.com 2008-05-11 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
Why do you hate to be the one to tell me that? I don't mind at all -- but as long as it's just RTD saying it, it's not canon. (Once it does happen, of course, it's just as canon as the old canon was. Which is why we have retcon. Isn't this fun? [g])

[identity profile] darthfox.livejournal.com 2008-05-11 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
Also: what are you still doing up, young man? By my calculations, it's 1am where you are, and aren't you in the midst of finals? Go to bed!

:-)

[identity profile] apotropaios.livejournal.com 2008-05-11 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
So: The Doctor steps out of a loom fully formed, is shot with a de-age-ing ray thing so he can be 10 years old to look into the Time Vortex just after the Master, before running away in a stolen TARDIS - a name that his granddaughter will invent later, but presumably travel back in time to suggest to the inventor gardener who first grew one - and then everything's ok until he's about 900 at which point he has a mid life crisis and thus starts making up random numbers around the 900 mark thereafter when stating his age, which he can get away with as anybody who could disprove him doesn't exist and never did, despite the fact a vast number of Daleks seem to survive his total destruction of everything, and every other race in the Galaxy remains faintly aware of the Timelord mythos, NOT THAT IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE OR ANYTHING.

Ahem.

[identity profile] apotropaios.livejournal.com 2008-05-11 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
Somebody is having a Ball right across the street. Keble, probably. It is very loud, and I am a light sleeper. I am working through the night. Not by choice. :(

[identity profile] elance.livejournal.com 2008-05-11 11:16 am (UTC)(link)
I thought it was quite clearly a reference to The Christmas Invasion - with the hand and all, she came back because she was within the, is it 72 hours, of 'regeneration' or 'birth'.

I think the Doctor just figured she wasn't 'enough' of a Timelord to regenerate, and totally forgot that she was only born a few hours earlier.

Pretty certain she and the Doctor will meet up again. Betting she'll be in one of the specials.